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		<title>by: Wiggins</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/23/navy-stops-ddg-1000-class-at-2/#comment-452</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:40:30 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>A strong follow-up article by the Globe:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2008/07/24/navy_cancels_20b_purchase_of_destroyers/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A strong follow-up article by the Globe:<br />
<a href='http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2008/07/24/navy_cancels_20b_purchase_of_destroyers/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2008/07/24/navy_cancels_20b_purchase_of_destroyers/</a>
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		<title>by: Wiggins</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-451</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:59:12 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-451</guid>
					<description>Thanks for coming by, Jason.

I violently agree that civilian leadership bears the responsibility for designing and executing grand strategy.  Doing this is politically risky, since one has to translate general goals into specific actions, programs and guidance.  If you define specific goals, then you risk not achieving them... which political leaders want to avoid.  So they avoid giving well-defined goals to the military.  Political leadership avoids even clearly stating the political end for which they're fighting.  

This ultimately leads to the situation you describe, where political leaders get general compliance from the military without giving it clear guidance, meaning that there are no clear standards for holding GOs accountable and - thus - no firings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks for coming by, Jason.</p>
	<p>I violently agree that civilian leadership bears the responsibility for designing and executing grand strategy.  Doing this is politically risky, since one has to translate general goals into specific actions, programs and guidance.  If you define specific goals, then you risk not achieving them&#8230; which political leaders want to avoid.  So they avoid giving well-defined goals to the military.  Political leadership avoids even clearly stating the political end for which they&#8217;re fighting.  </p>
	<p>This ultimately leads to the situation you describe, where political leaders get general compliance from the military without giving it clear guidance, meaning that there are no clear standards for holding GOs accountable and - thus - no firings.
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		<title>by: Jason</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-450</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:27:01 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-450</guid>
					<description>You know, I want to agree with you, especially noting that the Jomini-like obsession with applying force and measuring effects (do they still espouse &quot;effects-based measures?), that would explain the US military's usual execellence at the operational and tactical level of military operations. On the other hand, I am not so sure that civilians are &quot;reluctant&quot; to exercise control over strategic (or even operational) level warfare as per Clausewitz. I would suggest that (at least in this administration) civilians have been indifferent to Clausewitz or any other well-known author of grand strategy, and that they don't fire GOs merely because the civilians expect compliance and they get it, no matter how screwed up the direction is. Our GOs don't push back because they believe in Clausewitz to the degree that the aim of war is always to address a political imperative (or something to that effect). In that light, why should anyone be fired? The civilians get GOs to do what they want, and the GOs can take a little heat when the plan goes to shit, because they know the civilians won't fire them for following orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You know, I want to agree with you, especially noting that the Jomini-like obsession with applying force and measuring effects (do they still espouse &#8220;effects-based measures?), that would explain the US military&#8217;s usual execellence at the operational and tactical level of military operations. On the other hand, I am not so sure that civilians are &#8220;reluctant&#8221; to exercise control over strategic (or even operational) level warfare as per Clausewitz. I would suggest that (at least in this administration) civilians have been indifferent to Clausewitz or any other well-known author of grand strategy, and that they don&#8217;t fire GOs merely because the civilians expect compliance and they get it, no matter how screwed up the direction is. Our GOs don&#8217;t push back because they believe in Clausewitz to the degree that the aim of war is always to address a political imperative (or something to that effect). In that light, why should anyone be fired? The civilians get GOs to do what they want, and the GOs can take a little heat when the plan goes to shit, because they know the civilians won&#8217;t fire them for following orders.
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		<title>by: Smitten Eagle</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/21/the-war-over-the-next/#comment-449</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:13:34 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/21/the-war-over-the-next/#comment-449</guid>
					<description>To be sure, Mattis is not so much of a COIN warrior as he is a &quot;multipurpose force&quot; warrior.  He doesn't want to lose COIN expertise, but isn't willing to bet that the future doesn't hold conventional fights as well.

Also, Dunlap is a lawyer by trade, and an airpower ethusiast par excellence.  Virtually everything he has written has been to magnify the virtues of Airpower theory.  This seems to be his frame of reference, rather than the wars we are currently fighting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To be sure, Mattis is not so much of a COIN warrior as he is a &#8220;multipurpose force&#8221; warrior.  He doesn&#8217;t want to lose COIN expertise, but isn&#8217;t willing to bet that the future doesn&#8217;t hold conventional fights as well.</p>
	<p>Also, Dunlap is a lawyer by trade, and an airpower ethusiast par excellence.  Virtually everything he has written has been to magnify the virtues of Airpower theory.  This seems to be his frame of reference, rather than the wars we are currently fighting.
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		<title>by: Smitten Eagle</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-448</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:03:00 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-448</guid>
					<description>I commend you for your studies!
S/F,
SE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I commend you for your studies!<br />
S/F,<br />
SE
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		<title>by: Wiggins</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-447</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:46:07 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-447</guid>
					<description>SE,

Thank you for coming by and contributing.  Good stuff.

I agree that military and diplomatic history have atrophied in Western education (see this post [1], for example), with profound consequences for our civil discourse and civilian leadership.

cheers,
W

[1] http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2007/08/27/vdh-on-military-history-and-academia/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>SE,</p>
	<p>Thank you for coming by and contributing.  Good stuff.</p>
	<p>I agree that military and diplomatic history have atrophied in Western education (see this post [1], for example), with profound consequences for our civil discourse and civilian leadership.</p>
	<p>cheers,<br />
W</p>
	<p>[1] <a href='http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2007/08/27/vdh-on-military-history-and-academia/' rel='nofollow'>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2007/08/27/vdh-on-military-history-and-academia/</a>
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		<title>by: Wiggins</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2005/12/21/you-are-not-your-khakis/#comment-446</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:34:39 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2005/12/21/you-are-not-your-khakis/#comment-446</guid>
					<description>Jay and Glenn, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Jay and Glenn, thanks.
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		<title>by: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2005/12/21/you-are-not-your-khakis/#comment-445</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:33:56 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2005/12/21/you-are-not-your-khakis/#comment-445</guid>
					<description>Wow, This is excellent. A friend from the Muslim Student Association was trying to express this to me one evening while having tea. I really didn't &quot;get it.&quot; This makes much more sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wow, This is excellent. A friend from the Muslim Student Association was trying to express this to me one evening while having tea. I really didn&#8217;t &#8220;get it.&#8221; This makes much more sense.
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		<title>by: Smitten Eagle</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-444</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:28:47 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2008/07/18/jominis-ghost/#comment-444</guid>
					<description>Interesting post.

I'm not sure we're ever going to really going to get to the bottom of this, because there is such thing as a miilitary profession and the political masters of the military are usually amateurs in the true sense of the word.

Indeed, this amateurism is only increasing as even basic topics relating to understanding the military are being removed from the modern, liberal education.  Military and diplomatic histories aren't taught anymore, or if they are, they are considered a mere adjunct the modern liberal education.

Today, the only way one can get the requisite education for understanding, let alone leading, the military is by serving in the military, or by working in the national security think thanks.  But by doing the second option, we are held hostage to groups in institutions like the Project for the New American Century (which did much instigating for OIF I).

I cite as the main factor of amateurish civilian leadership is the pure lack of education on security issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Interesting post.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;re ever going to really going to get to the bottom of this, because there is such thing as a miilitary profession and the political masters of the military are usually amateurs in the true sense of the word.</p>
	<p>Indeed, this amateurism is only increasing as even basic topics relating to understanding the military are being removed from the modern, liberal education.  Military and diplomatic histories aren&#8217;t taught anymore, or if they are, they are considered a mere adjunct the modern liberal education.</p>
	<p>Today, the only way one can get the requisite education for understanding, let alone leading, the military is by serving in the military, or by working in the national security think thanks.  But by doing the second option, we are held hostage to groups in institutions like the Project for the New American Century (which did much instigating for OIF I).</p>
	<p>I cite as the main factor of amateurish civilian leadership is the pure lack of education on security issues.
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		<title>by: Jay@Soob</title>
		<link>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2005/12/21/you-are-not-your-khakis/#comment-443</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:20:56 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://opposedsystemsdesign.blogsome.com/2005/12/21/you-are-not-your-khakis/#comment-443</guid>
					<description>Damn Wiggins. Great post, sorry I'm two years late.

The agony of Wahhabism is it's cycle of self defeat. You'd think a decade of Taliban rule in Afghanistan would be enough writing on the wall for anyone hoping for a return of Islams golden era. Especially considering the &quot;first wave&quot; of nihilist foot soldiers to join AQ were generally well educated and of fairly well to do economic backgrounds. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Damn Wiggins. Great post, sorry I&#8217;m two years late.</p>
	<p>The agony of Wahhabism is it&#8217;s cycle of self defeat. You&#8217;d think a decade of Taliban rule in Afghanistan would be enough writing on the wall for anyone hoping for a return of Islams golden era. Especially considering the &#8220;first wave&#8221; of nihilist foot soldiers to join AQ were generally well educated and of fairly well to do economic backgrounds.
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